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Post by Mariner on Sept 6, 2005 5:58:07 GMT -5
I've been watching the Spin Cycle go to work over the last day or so and there seem to be some definite patterns forming.
1. Reports of Cameras being confiscated by National Guard Troops.
2. Outside non-governmental help by Citizens is being turned away. The membership of the Florida Air Boat Pilots Association volunteered 500 Airboats and Pilots for the Rescue efforts. FEMA turned them down. Local people from a nearby Parish manned up and trailered up their boats and drove in a caravan to New Orleans to volunteer their efforts - they were turned away by uniformed Fish and Game Officers.
3. Ham Radio Wavelengths are being Jammed by someone.
4. Other attempts to bring in supplies and assistance have been turned away.
I suspect from the pattern forming that what is being done is a minimization of the number of witnesses as to what has occurred in New Orleans.
Information Control is being put into place to prevent an accurate picture from getting out. It is my guess that it is probably much more horrific than the Main Stream Media sleepers are allowed to say.
So, what we are getting is a slow distortion of the picture with other elements of Propaganda being flooded out i.e., criticisms of people who might have erred, or confabulated stories to make it seem so, so as to deflect attention from Bush and his merry band of murdering incompetents.
With the introduction of Military Troops I think we can expect even tighter control as to who is allowed in - and out. This means tighter control of information in and out. I suspect that as one of the motivations for introducing armed Troops.
Watch for signs of the story starting to be slowly morphed in the Mainstream Major Media so as to change the image from one of Bush Administration incompetence to local incompetence, with suppression of any evidence as to the true scale of the numbers of dead.
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Post by ExSlidellian on Sept 7, 2005 0:39:57 GMT -5
This guy is a talking points mass mailer, showing up on all NOLA sites and forums. Your MOVE on .org and DNC dollars at hard work. What a disgrace.
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Post by lougheed on Sept 9, 2005 0:02:24 GMT -5
i completely agree. have u seen farinheit 9/11. says it all honey Chris, You sound very intelligent, your spelling and grammar says it all. Maybe you should watch Fahrenheit 911 again; it’s obvious you're getting smarter.
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Post by Amber on Sept 9, 2005 0:09:52 GMT -5
Please watch the sarcasm. Thanks!
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Post by BywaterBlues on Sept 9, 2005 7:08:56 GMT -5
www.baltimoresun.com/news/opinion/oped/bal-op.administration08sep08,1,1222575.story?ctrack=1&cset=true You shameful Republicans are finished. How can you even look at yourselves in the mirror? You will go down in History as the most deluded sect on planet earth. Wow. You are my enemy and will be squashed, ...not by my gunfire (I know how you idiots think...) but by the weight of your own incompetence. Please watch the name calling here, this is a site for people to find out information on their homes and missing loved ones and maybe to vent a little frustration, rudness will NOT be tolerated. - AM
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Post by mouse on Sept 9, 2005 11:32:30 GMT -5
"Ron Fournier of The Associated Press reported that the Army Corps of Engineers asked for $105 million for hurricane and flood programs in New Orleans last year. The White House carved it to about $40 million. But President Bush and Congress agreed to a $286.4 billion pork-filled highway bill with 6,000 pet projects, including a $231 million bridge for a small, uninhabited Alaskan island."
Guess the polar bears will have an easy trek to the fishing ground.
Who said that Bush isn't responsible?
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Post by bamaguy on Sept 9, 2005 22:19:42 GMT -5
Mouse go tot he Army Corps of Engineers website. the 2 Levves that broke were ALREADY fivxed and refurbished under your so-called plan to rebuild. So your assumptions are WRONG.
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Post by mouse on Sept 10, 2005 0:45:45 GMT -5
And a darned good job they did of it with their reduced funds.
Have it from a very good source that any repairs done on the levy system in the past three years were makeshift due to budget restraints.
Again, what possible excuse can there be to slash funds from a project that would absolutely save lives just to give money to pork barrel projects and pay back political favors? Come on. What's the excuse? I really want to hear it bamaguy....
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Post by bamaguy on Sept 10, 2005 11:53:56 GMT -5
Again MOUSE you have your facts wrong, the 2 levees that broke were COMPLETELY rebuilt, with no slashed budgets. They still broke. Even the Liberla New YORK times campaigned against this PROK Barrell project, the head of the corps of Engineers said that ANY Project to repair all of the levees would still have failed. You want to blame the president for everything, you act like he is a dictator, you think he has the power to do everything in this country. Well I have some knowledge for you. tehre are mayors, governors, senators, the congress, all these people are in-ppower nbot just the 1 person that you HATE. I feel sorry for you that you wont go read the facts and open your mind. the Mayor STARVED the people at the superdome, when the redcross asked to bring in food and water but he myor refused them. I ask you MOUSE..WHY would he do this? Why would he make these people suffer? Mouse answer my questions....
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Post by mouse on Sept 10, 2005 15:37:57 GMT -5
Your questions have been answered time and time again. First of all, turn your TV tuner away from FOX news.
On one thing we agree, Bush is close to being a dictator. Actually, it was a former President of the United States who said: "The buck stops here."
Family members who were involved in New Orleans will be happy to tell you that the MAYOR did not "starve the people in the Superdome". That honor they reserve for Brown, who served at the pleasure of Bush.
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Post by BywaterBlues on Sept 10, 2005 21:09:03 GMT -5
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Post by bamaguy on Sept 10, 2005 21:40:55 GMT -5
Blame WHO by Charles Krautheimer--
Quote-" 1. The mayor of New Orleans. He knows the city. He knows the danger. He knows that during Hurricane Georges in 1998, the use of the Superdome was a disaster and fully two-thirds of the residents never got out of the city. Nothing was done. He declared a mandatory evacuation only 24 hours before Hurricane Katrina hit. He did not even declare a voluntary evacuation until the day before that, at 5 p.m. At that time, he explained that he needed to study his legal authority to call a mandatory evacuation and was hesitating to do so lest the city be sued by hotels and other businesses.
2. The Louisiana governor. It's her job to call up the National Guard and get it to where it has to go. Where the Guard was in the first few days is a mystery. Indeed, she issued an authorization for the National Guard to commandeer school buses to evacuate people on Wednesday afternoon -- more than two days after the hurricane hit and after much of the fleet had already drowned in its parking lots.
3. The head of FEMA. Late, slow and in way over his head. On Thursday he says on national television that he didn't even know there were people in the Convention Center, when anybody watching television could see them there destitute and desperate. Maybe in his vast bureaucracy he can assign three 20-year-olds to watch cable news and give him updates every hour on what in hell is going on.
4. The president. Late, slow and simply out of tune with the urgency and magnitude of the disaster. The second he heard that the levees had been breached in New Orleans, he should have canceled his schedule and addressed the country on national television to mobilize it both emotionally and physically to assist in the disaster. His flyover on the way to Washington was the worst possible symbolism. And his Friday visit was so tone-deaf and politically disastrous that he had to fly back three days later.
5. Congress. Now as always playing holier-than-thou. Perhaps it might ask itself who created the Department of Homeland Security in the first place. The congressional response to all crises is the same -- rearrange the bureaucratic boxes, but be sure to add one extra layer. The last four years of DHS have been spent principally on bureaucratic reorganization (and real estate) instead of, say, a workable plan for as predictable a disaster as a Gulf Coast hurricane.
6. The American people. They have made it impossible for any politician to make any responsible energy policy over the last 30 years -- but that is a column for another day. Now is not the time for constructive suggestions. Now is the time for blame, recriminations and sheer astonishment. Mayor Nagin has announced that, as bodies are still being found and as a public health catastrophe descends upon the city, he is sending 60 percent of his cops on city funds for a little R&R, mostly to Vegas hotels. Asked if it was appropriate to party in these circumstances, he responded: ``New Orleans is a party town. Get over it.'' --end quote---
Let's all be Non-Political about who to blame.
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Post by BywaterBlues on Sept 11, 2005 23:27:31 GMT -5
Representative Cynthia McKinney: I mentioned the word impeachment on the House Floor Thursday late afternoon, but I don't see it in the official Congressional Record transcript. I was chided by the Speaker that it was out of order to question the President's motives. I didn't question motives, I questioned actions: from lack of actions on Katrina to cutting the budget of safety net programs, to rewarding the rich to the detriment of all the rest of us. This transcript directly from the Congressional Record is mangled and omits that word!!!! I can't believe this. Please read the attachment (I don't normally do attachments) and see if I missed it. If I hear back from you that it is, indeed, missing, then I will say the word repeatedly on the House Floor upon my return to force them to put my words as I say them in the Congressional Record. In this talk, I discuss Katrina, the State of Black America, the State of Hispanic America, poverty in America, and the Katrina timelines being developed that will keep us from falling victim to the White House spin. In addition to explosive information given to me from investigative journalists and whistleblowers, there is one particularly pernicious development taking place: bioweapons labs under water with who knows what having been released into the environment. People desperate for jobs must be informed what the heck has been unleashed in the devastated areas as a result of Katrina. Anyone involved in cleanup must have this information before entering New Orleans. I shudder to ponder all the ramifications of Katrina. Although I didn't finish my remarks, and I'm told they also shut the microphone off as I was concluding my remarks--something I don't remember ever having been done to a Member before--I think you get the message here that high crimes and more than misdemeanors have been visited upon the American people.
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Post by bamaguy on Sept 12, 2005 0:17:37 GMT -5
Hunh?
Maybe you should elaborate your copying Democratic Talking points....can YOU not think for yourself that you have to COPY right off the DEMOCRATIC race baiting/politicize prepared talking points?
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Post by RTL on Sept 12, 2005 0:53:10 GMT -5
You should blame Bush for the Hurricane too. Or get an education and fix the problem. The blame game helps nobody.
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